Query for the Whoonies

[deadlightsgirl]

 So here's a ponderable, Whoonies - you know that thing I can't stand about "all plot twists boil down to the fact that Amy Pond (or Rose) is SPECIAL"?  Donna wound up to be special too, for all she didn't believe it. Why doesn't it bother me when it's her, but it does with the others? Could it be that I simply LIKE Donna better, or the fact that she got spanked for her specialness, or that I should just stop trying to read into Russell T's inconsistent writing?

Comments

[sweet-luluberry.livejournal.com]

I think it's a combination of you liking Donna better and the fact that it was just done so well when it was her. Like, I hate Rose way less than you do and I still think it worked SO much better for Donna.

[screamingdolai.livejournal.com]

Yeah, Davies ain't the devil...if he was, Doctor Who would not be here for series 6...it would have ended after series 2.

Rose was a 19yr old fan girl who cried when she lost the first real man she had a crush on. Either that annoys you or it makes you fondly remember being a stupid fan girl who was blindly in love with something that couldn't love you back with that intensity. I don't think Rose was SPECIAL, I think she was a young girl that didn't know The Doctor didn't work the same way human men did and wouldn't settle for "no" as an answer.

Donna is a woman, closer to 40 than 20, closer to a size 14 than a size 4; she knows who she is and what she wants; she probably didn't have her pick of the men and probably paid for a lot of her own drinks. She's OK with just being Donna Noble, which is why we cry harder because we know she really is the most important being in the universe.

[tomincloset.livejournal.com]

I don't even mean the whole "crushing the Doctor" factor, though I DO love Donna extra for her lack of crush - I mean all that Bad Wolf shit...like, Rose Tyler is some extra special force in the cosmos. Not to the degree of Amy (I get it. Amy Pond is cosmically special. Now shut the fuck up), who gets more and more special every day...yeah, I guess if I liked her more, it would irk me less - though we all know my famous Rose-dislike (at least in S2), and the "special" factor wasn't the thing that bovvered me the most with her.

Also, I've come to the conclusion that that thing from the end of ep 2 that seemed like a given is in fact NOT, and that there's some other explanation, because Moffat is better than that.

[fjordhopper.livejournal.com]

Part of it could be what you and screamingdolai already said. Donna (and Rose too actually) doesn't think that she's special, she just is who she is. Amy, however, appears to think that she is special already, which is definitely more annoying. Also Rory is so puppy-like devoted to her that it just doesn't help either.

Overall, my impression is that Donna didn't worry about what others necessarily thought of her, or if even if she did, she still said what was on her mind and acted as herself regardless of the possible consequences. Amy seems a bit more calculating and more apt to want to appear "cute" and special, and when she does go off, she uses the "cute" to make sure that everyone still loves her.

So in my head, it sort of boils down to this. Donna earned her specialness and then paid for it, Amy thinks she's special already and everyone else around her just keeps confirming it...

Overall the stories are really "fairy tales" - stories of humans who travel to the "otherworld" and are changed by the experience. So all of the companions are special because they are really the "hero" in a way. It's just kind of annoying when you get one who knows that already.